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Episode 15: Dr Kate Jarvis & Johnny Morris 2025 Wrap-Up: AI Agents, ROI, and What's Next for Real Estate in 2026

Episode 15 · 39 min

Dr Kate Jarvis and Johnny Morris review the shifts that defined AI in 2025 and look ahead to agents, ROI and the next phase of adoption in real estate.

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They explain why their 2025 prediction came true — that “hire an AI employee” marketing would flop. Domain-specific complexity means you can’t just buy a generalist agent called “Dean” to run your development business. Success requires decomposing workflows, not magical one-click solutions.

The conversation explores the critical role of “tinkerers” — growth-minded users who experiment with AI and become unofficial AI engineers. Johnny shares how Fifth Dimension now empowers these users to build bespoke workflows that spread throughout organizations, driving value faster than top-down rollouts.

Kate and Johnny tackle the MIT study showing 95% of enterprises saw no AI ROI, framing the successful 5% as early adopters who’ll widen the gap in 2026. They demystify “enterprise AI search,” explaining why plugging SharePoint into an LLM fails, and what data infrastructure actually enables predictive insights that drive alpha.

Their final advice: if you want to win big, you have to play big. The era of AI experimentation is over. 2026 will separate organizations that commit resources from those still watching from the sidelines.

Essential listening for real estate professionals and business leaders navigating AI transformation beyond the hype.